mJaiku Project now setup in SourceForge (http://sf.net/projects/mjaiku). Code have been migrated and a new download site is up.
2 years, 7 months ago.
10 comments so far
To download to your phone goto http://mjaiku.sf.net from your mobile phone. There are two links now ... one for the previous "stable" release and one that contains the latest code in development.
No Blackberry support yet due to Jaiku being down most of today and therefore unble to test the moblet. As a result I spent the day migrating the project over to SourceForge.
Feel free to add feature request to the SourceForge section for that purpose. It would be nice if I could create a channel specifically for the project here in Jaiku ... hint hint.
just curious... about the BB issue... it seems like some sort of key-mapping abstraction should go into (or on top of) mojax itself, no? Then it wouldn't have to be addressed per project?
Richard: Yes I agree ... I am trying to think of a way to expose that in the language as a Javascript object without loosing the ability to style menus using CSS as is currently possible on non-Blackberry devices. If anything comes to mind, let me know!
I don't do mobile development, so this may sound like nonsense... but anyway...
When I typed my commment, in my head I was imagining a kind-of declarative way of announcing a set of commands. One level of abstraction up from talking about which key the users press. And, you'd say, "by the way, if the phone supports it, I'd like the first X of these assigned to special keys." So, on most phones, it could map the first two to softkeys, and put the rest in the central menu. On the BB, perhaps all of them would go in the scroll-wheel menu.
As for CSS, couldn't there be some sort of contract about what ID's or classes it assigns to items, or as part of the declaration the user could supply how they want to 'locate' the buttons in CSS.
As with all strategies like this, some users will want more control over what happens. And they can still use the low-level key events, and will inherit the burden of dealing with per-phone key issues.
I'll note, too, that when web browsing, some wap pages have buttons which I assume people normally use with softkeys. And, I can scroll down to them via scroll wheel and click them when they've gotten the focus.
Perhaps that could also be accomplished, though again it requires the user to tell mojax the connection between the screen element and the key press somehow (rather than defining a onLeft() type event technically disconnected from the screen item, which is what I think happens today).
Yeah ... a good summary of my own line of thinking. Given that Jaiku was down most of the day I had a lot of time to think of this issue alot. I was thinking about adding a new tag for this purpose (e.g. <menu><menuitem/> ... </menu>). On non-Blackberry devices these tags would "respect" CSS styles and on the Blackberry it would manifest itself as the scrollwheel menu.
downloaded and installed on Treo 650.. seems to be working except I can't access menu or exit options either by tapping with stylus, the 5-way navigation, or any button combination I can think of. So, it's not possible to put in my api key.. any idea why?
10 comments so far
To download to your phone goto http://mjaiku.sf.net from your mobile phone. There are two links now ... one for the previous "stable" release and one that contains the latest code in development.
2 years, 7 months ago by raiglstorfer
No Blackberry support yet due to Jaiku being down most of today and therefore unble to test the moblet. As a result I spent the day migrating the project over to SourceForge.
2 years, 7 months ago by raiglstorfer
Feel free to add feature request to the SourceForge section for that purpose. It would be nice if I could create a channel specifically for the project here in Jaiku ... hint hint.
2 years, 7 months ago by raiglstorfer
just curious... about the BB issue... it seems like some sort of key-mapping abstraction should go into (or on top of) mojax itself, no? Then it wouldn't have to be addressed per project?
2 years, 7 months ago by RichardTodd
Richard: Yes I agree ... I am trying to think of a way to expose that in the language as a Javascript object without loosing the ability to style menus using CSS as is currently possible on non-Blackberry devices. If anything comes to mind, let me know!
2 years, 7 months ago by raiglstorfer
I don't do mobile development, so this may sound like nonsense... but anyway...
When I typed my commment, in my head I was imagining a kind-of declarative way of announcing a set of commands. One level of abstraction up from talking about which key the users press. And, you'd say, "by the way, if the phone supports it, I'd like the first X of these assigned to special keys." So, on most phones, it could map the first two to softkeys, and put the rest in the central menu. On the BB, perhaps all of them would go in the scroll-wheel menu.
As for CSS, couldn't there be some sort of contract about what ID's or classes it assigns to items, or as part of the declaration the user could supply how they want to 'locate' the buttons in CSS.
As with all strategies like this, some users will want more control over what happens. And they can still use the low-level key events, and will inherit the burden of dealing with per-phone key issues.
2 years, 7 months ago by RichardTodd
I'll note, too, that when web browsing, some wap pages have buttons which I assume people normally use with softkeys. And, I can scroll down to them via scroll wheel and click them when they've gotten the focus.
Perhaps that could also be accomplished, though again it requires the user to tell mojax the connection between the screen element and the key press somehow (rather than defining a onLeft() type event technically disconnected from the screen item, which is what I think happens today).
2 years, 7 months ago by RichardTodd
Yeah ... a good summary of my own line of thinking. Given that Jaiku was down most of the day I had a lot of time to think of this issue alot. I was thinking about adding a new tag for this purpose (e.g. <menu><menuitem/> ... </menu>). On non-Blackberry devices these tags would "respect" CSS styles and on the Blackberry it would manifest itself as the scrollwheel menu.
2 years, 7 months ago by raiglstorfer
downloaded and installed on Treo 650.. seems to be working except I can't access menu or exit options either by tapping with stylus, the 5-way navigation, or any button combination I can think of. So, it's not possible to put in my api key.. any idea why?
2 years, 7 months ago by digitalcraig
So, out of curiosity, how many hours are left in the 24hr experiment? will it conclude this week? My poor blackberry still doesn't know how to jaiku.
2 years, 6 months ago by RichardTodd